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Oh, this intro is capital c cute!

Nice little can't-tell-if-it's-a-shamisen-or-koto melody. I think I would like a bit less tinny feel on that instrument.

I feel like we have a super long intro there into a build and another build, all the way up to 1:22 -- aaaand we're still building. 1:34 is quite a bit of a long intro! I would decide what could be chopped and moved into a different verse or bridge.

Mix wise I think 1:30 or so is almost unintelligible for your snare. The heavy sidechain makes it audible but if not it would just not be there. Up that snare and give him some space! Your bass also suffers in intelligibility from too much sub.

Other than that, at this point, 1:56 I am still enjoying your writing despite these issues. I think the grainy rain/vinyl samples could come down a full dB and still add to the sound.

The attack on your shami-koto w/e feels the absolute same on each note, especially noticeable on the sweep up

3:03 that lead is WAY too loud for this section. I can tell by how the compression reacts at 3:20 that this was mixed very loud. Also at 3:30 the compression is struggling to handle ALL that low sub as well as all your leads. It sounds as if you may have turned them up to cope with the rest of the song being super loud. Be sure to modulate your volume on individual clips as well as the whole instrument track!

At 4:18 I still think the lead is too loud. It also seems to lie flat in the space it sits in, no ping pong delay, etc.

Outro piano is super pretty.

All in all, after the LONG intro, I really enjoyed the listen. After that, the track knew where it was going and how to get there. I would cut the chaff on this one, as it is a long 5:13. Otherwise, I have no real critique. Your writing is noice. <3

Thanks for coming out to NGUAC!

dekiruGD responds:

Thanks for the review! I still have a lot to learn about mixing.

I sits. I enjoys straight fire beets. I fade away in a pair of acid wash jeans to the sound of a world in decadent decay, carried on the wind by the digested mess of lead guitar.

LexRodent responds:

Can't tell if this is an abstract review or some modern poetry.
Either way, it's very appreciated ;)

I have no idea what you're sampling, but you're absolutely destroying it, and that's interesting in and of itself.

I'm not sure about the reverb on the bass at 15 seconds or so. I think that could come down by a lot. It would sound much better with a centered bass with not too much reverb or chorus.

I'm not sure about the machine gunning marching snare, but by 1:18 we're getting a nice little bit of spoop going on. I like how unusual the piece as a whole is. It's hard to even form a coherent thought with this on.

Thanks for coming out to NGUAC!

deepfriedfiend responds:

I ripped and modified most of the sounds from Hydrogen's death metal drum kit, even turning a cymbal into a lead. Some are resampled and modified from individual notes recorded from various Yamaha keyboards, my own voice, or made entirely from FLStudio plugins.
I am glad to join NGUAC. And thank you for the advice! I'll consider that!

SUCH WOW MUCH LOUD

Oh I recognize those snares and can't even tell where from. I think I would have liked some panning play with the individual snare samples, and rolling across channels from left to right. Anything to keep from sounding flat.

I like all of your samples. I think at points like 53 secs it's almost impossible to hear the bass doing what it do. Your auxiliary perc should come down, or your compression should come down and your bass should go up on those sections, because 0:59, 1:22, etc are perfectly audible. It's when the 1:38 loop and your breaks are hanging out at the same time everything else is almost impossible to hear.

You can also strip reverb from your basses and that will help a little with compression pains.

Great rhythms though dude. I really enjoyed the variety of sound, even if at points things were inaudible or tinny -- I really am starting to think that's a compression issue of big sections having too many things that by themselves sound nice with the basses but all together squash it too much.

Thanks for coming out to NGUAC!

DEATH-DANGER-INCOME responds:

Thank you. Yea i know. It's just, i needed to make something. Andddd no time was even left before i needed to go do something else. Not going into detail.

That melody is catchy. I'm tapping along unconsciously. I think despite the poor quality of instruments, this song manages to stand on the merit of its melodic writing.

also is that M-Theory?!!! <3 memories

What I would do in the absence of better instruments is make the best mixing and FX choices you possibly can. Meaning use reverb sparingly, and when you do use it, clean those low mid frequencies -- and by that I mean eliminate them. Make use of transition wooshes, find some cinematic cymbals, or make your own reverse cymbals for transitions. Find some good free instruments such as Junk Guitar for sforzando, a free amp that's half decent, and as many nice free drum samples as you can get. I have tons of them in my news posts if you can be bothered to sift through them and some FX no longer available on the web if you'd like to PM me some time.

Despite being a relatively simple piece and being severely limited by lower quality instruments like FL slayer which I think I hear, I really enjoyed the piece. Your writing is a huge strongpoint here. Looking forward to hearing from you as you expand your horizons over time.

Thanks for coming out to NGUAC!

damnhurt responds:

Thanks man, I appreciate that.
I'm just learning about mixing, so I will try to fix it as soon as I learn.

P.S. And what is M-Theory?

Nice panning on your ocean FX. I would like to hear some chorus and more volume on those leads in the beginning.

At 35 seconds, that 808 is simply too loud and is blowing the rest of the track completely out. Bring it and the kick down a few DB. I can hear almost nothing else. I think I would bring the water FX down also to make room for your tinny melodies.

Writing wise I really enjoy this. It's almost olskool.

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Crysstal712 responds:

Thanks :), i didn't really have time to do this because i had school and stuff like that, and I'm also not really good at trap. But I'm always trying my best so thank you a lot for the feedback =)

I would like to hear a bit more of your low strings -- although being careful to watch harder attacks with long releases, as they sound a bit gnarly in your intro.

Beyond that, fantastic piece, great sound quality.

I would take the violins chugging into 1:20 down by about a half dB and push them to the background.

Throughout I find that I want just a bit less reverb than is there.

Windchimes at 2:00 could also come down in volume. They're quite strong.

Your chords are confoundingly complex. Much love.

I languish that my orchestral instruments sound like trash in comparison to yours, as does my capability of using them.

2:56 you could certainly use a better orchestral brass. Those attacks are a bit poo-poo compared to the rest of this GORGEOUS work. I recommend Spitfire Brass. I've also used their Albion library. Then there's a few nice freebies like carpenter trombone that can be fooled into becoming an ensemble with enough beating kontakt to death with transposing.

Beautiful, beautiful piece. I have little if anything to actually critique. Stellar composition.

Cresince responds:

Thank you so much for your detailed feedback!

I do agree that my mixing could use some work, I mostly mix on headphones but I believe if I used some studio monitors or even just speakers I could iron out some of those stand out instruments that don't sound as harsh on the set up I use now.

Also one thing to mention on this piece is that I used the fantastic VST Arkhis. It is good for preset orchestral textures that can really uplift a piece, I recommend it.

I will have to check out your VST recommendations so thank you for making me aware of them, and also thank you for the kind words! Glad you liked it. <3

Nice album cover!

I'm not a huge fan of your piano, just because over-reverbed and delayed pianos are so ... overused. I'm not sure what to make of your string synth in the intro either.

I think I would like to hear less static and grime on the high end of your bass, and a more centered sound for 250 and below hz.

Your snare could use more low mid, and your kick could use perhaps some soft clipping.

There is something about the chords that bothers me. I think it's the parallel motion of 5ths. parallel 5ths can sound grating -- it's in the keys for me.

The shakers/hats are a bit loud.

But back to parallel motion -- you can make this piece a lot more interesting by using inversions in your keys and pads.

I also am not sure about the final chord in your progression. I can't put a finger on it, but it doesn't seem resolved to me. I would actually probably use it as your first chord, not your last!

I'm not sure what else to say about this piece, except that all the elements of a song I would like are there, but something has happened with the density (chunkiness with notes close together) and dissonance of chords that otherwise should probably sound energized and motivated, and as you titled, gorgeous and fantastical, to make them sound a little depressed. I don't mean that in a foul or derogatory way. Just think a brief bit of music theory would help translate your vision. I hear a lot of the root note of chords and occasionally notes that don't seem to go in a chord, or notes that don't resolve in a melody.

Anyway, in terms of structure and songwriting, you're ahead of the curve. Your structure is clear and easy to follow. You have ideas that obviously belong to the same song and logically flow. At no point is the song boring, even if I am confused by some choices of note. You clearly know how to use your instruments to their potential, which is more than a lot of people can say, and the mix is not half bad.

Beyond that, I can't complain. Thanks for coming out to NGUAC!

CrazyKryz13 responds:

Thank you! I will try more techniques as the time goes on and develop my senses further. Glad you enjoyed!

Very interesting vocal samples in your beginning.

I think you have some pretty nice, quirky melodies. There's a lot of variation in melody and the track certainly doesn't feel like it's the same thing over and over, however, it's a bit of a tough mesh.

I recommend some study of overall song structure, as you have a lot of great ideas, but I feel like it's lots of choruses and bridges/outros put together, as opposed to a clearer organization of ideas in verse, chorus, verse, chorus, bridge, chorus, or etc.

There are some issues with mix. The bass is very thin relative to the rest of the track, and it's very high mid heavy. The percussion cuts through perfectly, but the rest of the track is thin and centered relative to it. I think the kick could be louder, the snare come down by 0.2 dB, and the hihats and shakers be spread out/ping pong delayed in the panning.

It feels like some instruments are very heavily chorused, but because they don't really move around and have a lot of reverb, no instruments seem to have a ping pong delay, it feels all very centered.

About 4 minutes to 4:57 you have some really high screaming leads. They hurt my ears a little bit. I think they could come down substantially in the mix without losing clarity, because nothing else is sitting in that high space.

I feel like the 8th note bass staying with the same riff has me sitting in the same place. For a song that's 5 minutes and 17 seconds, that's a LONG time to be hearing the same or similar beats. You could probably shorten this and have a much better result.

For your female vocal samples, those could probably benefit from being chorused, having different parts of the riff in different ears, etc. For your leads, there should be a strong center and perhaps some hints of delay in each ear to give the illusion of space.

Other than that, not bad at all. I think based on your drums you might even be able to put this in Nerdcore.

Thanks for coming out to NGUAC!

cookie-group responds:

Well, i can only agree with every critical point. Thanks for the rating.

I think a better instrument could be used than the organ for those stabs all together, and perhaps the humanization function for your keys.

Your writing and phrasing is great. It's held back only by a lack of percussion in the first half, bass, transition FX, etc., and of course the cheesy real instrument synths. I would recommend using ... synthier instruments to attract less scrutiny of the ear, or spending some time looking through places like Bedroom Producer's Blog for better synths.

I also have a tutorial for importing Muse Score sfz instruments, which are actually quite nice quality, into sforzando the free sfz player for use in other DAWs. May be of use to you. You can find it in my news posts along with a lot of other free and low cost resources.

Your final chorus is nicely balanced relative to the rest of the song.

I also notice the mix itself feels very centered and dry, particularly when there isn't a lot going on. Your accordion could easily be spread out with a melody and harmony in both channels, etc. The organ might better be replaced by a lower octave piano or something like Pocket Blakus Cello

I can't really hear a snare if there is one at 2:30. I think that's a shaker, but it's drowned out by piano/key parts that aren't the main melody.

Beyond that, sweet piece. As your knowledge of your software and breadth and width of options increase over time, I see a great future for you in music. Already you're creating moving works, with a clear knowledge of what they are and where they are meant to go. I think you did splendid work, and I'll be happy to see you keeping on doing the same! I can only hope my comments be of some help to you and spur you onward to bigger and better things. Keep at it!

Thanks for coming out to NGUAC!

ChaoticBou responds:

Thank you so much for the feedback!

I agree with your criticism, and I'm aware that the part I mostly need to work on currently is improving my instruments, as well as my mixing, so these suggestions really do help me out, seeing as I'm kind of at a loss as to where to look for info and tutorials on it.

So yeah, thanks! Hope you'll enjoy judging the other works!

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