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Great first attempt. I would just say the instruments need to come down a lot in the mix so the drums can cut through. Otherwise you have really great melody writing.

I might cut the low piano chords -- either remove some notes so they aren't chunky sounding, or bring them up in the register. But personally I don't really like sound font piano after just working with it for so many years. That's more of a music producer gripe.

You've got some really interesting ideas going on here. I'd like to see you do something similar in the future

Quippic8 responds:

Thank you for being honest! I will take your advice<3

Sounds so interesting. I would have liked to just chill on that opening chord drone and ... actually it sounds so funky I'd sample it <3

Quippic8 responds:

It is called a percussive organ. I had to argue with the studio owner because I have a vintage one that weighs a ton and I had to get a bigger studio lol.
My friend also recorded me.

You made this only in minecraft?! Holy cow. This bops. I'm super impressed. I'd like to see a video next time you do something like this. It's really cool

Quippic8 responds:

I can promise you a video on my next minecraft song

I just want you to know, my brain saw your username and immediately thought first track of 20... 11

Interesting, mellow piece. I can't tell if we have sub rumbling in my left ear or if that's tinnitus. I might cut it unless you center it more and make it swell in both ears -- to give more of a feeling of progression by 1:00

You've got a good theme going on, but I'm not really able to pick up an obvious melody outside of the plucks denoting suspended chords. By 1:46 this is somewhat resolved.

I want to say you have some really nice dulcimer sounds going on here. Holy cow. I wish this part had been just a bit earlier.

Interesting stereo play at 2:42. I think that staccato pluck throughout could use some more development and dynamics throughout, potentially to be pushed a bit to the back. It seems to have carried most of the whole piece, not leaving a lot of room for transition.

I'm not quite sold on the violin when it comes in. That one's not going to sound natural without a looooooot of modulation, sounds like. You could potentially treat it like a lead guitar in the mix, double track two instances of it and slightly detune one, change round robins, pan appropriately. It's very thin and flat there. I think even just a chorus or being thrown to the back with reverb a bit may help.

The next section with synth strings -- obvious ones at that, is much more balanced and lays in together. I honestly think you could get away with more obviously synthy instruments, which would completely jump over and sidestep the uncanny valley that's happening with the violin.

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cyan11 responds:

Thanks for listening/commenting

Starting in up to 15 seconds, sounding good. Only thing I'm noticing is some lack of clarity in your low mids. I'd cut some reverb down just a bit there, and up your low cut to about 250.

When the guitars come in they stand out really nicely but seem to kind of lay on top of the track. You can double track two guitar lines so that it doesn't sound centered, and apply chorus with a lower dry signal there. I really enjoy your composition though!

Around 1:40, your heavy guitars and or N64 esque bass are covered up by the reverb so that I can only make them out because I know what they are. I think that may be from personal experience with it myself just going ear dead to the composition after so many hours trying to get those juicy spacious sounds.

Compositionally, this is absolutely wonderful to listen to and you have a lot of varied textures. Excited to see more from you!

zybor responds:

Thank you for your kind words and detailed review! :3

Wow you have good ears for noticing the instruments used in the track.

It's so rare to find someone who actually records doubles clean. Olskool asf.

You know, I had an epiphany, you could try some distortion on your vocals and a light chorus. Bring out just a little bit of 5Khz and they would shine nicely.

Also big thank for the shoutout <3

Cyberdevil responds:

Hehe, I know no other way to prove I can truly do these dues, shoot the hoops, tis the school I'm schooled into, where way back feuds would brew, doo ba di dopp shoop-de-do!

You know I actually just tried some basic distortion on my most recent two. :) No choruses of equal caliber there though, that sounds even better, all the more contrast...

And thanks for that amazing instrumental earlier on too! :) Definitely turned into the best year so far; this here's the bar! Hope we can try something next year too!

Cyberdevil always blows my mind with his rhymes. This is something interesting. It's like angry video games creeping me out. I'd like to hear Cd compressed some more, maybe with some stereo widened doubles. But other than that, total klass.

Quarl responds:

Thanks love, I have zero experience mixing vocals. I hope he didn't mind some of my editing. I muted a couple of auxillary recordings that were mad straight edge but he never complained about it. I had mentioned something not long ago to him about having a hang over, heard a "stay sober" adlib and was like "let's not get all political here."

:P

@Quarl, I'm alive!

I just saw this, and I love it. If you send me the acapella I'll shoot you back a mixed version <3

Cyberdevil responds:

Eyy you're back! :D And alive!!! That'd be awesome, PM soon as I get back home...

And glad you enjoyed it!

Has a lot of interesting elements, a driving DnB beat, but most of these elements don't really seem to come together. I think if you watched a couple videos on song structure, and wrote out the most complex, heavy 4 to 8 bars of your song you would have a better idea of where you were going with this piece.

My process song-writing is this. I have 4 bars. I write those up until it sounds nice and full with all elements of the song present, bass, drums, lead, pads or w/e on the sides. Then I copy that into 8 bars, keep the ending I had for bar 4 on bar 8, and then rewrite bar 4 so that it flows naturally into bar 5. You may have to loop the playback for this process.

Then I pick a song structure I like and write a transition bar into the "drop" I just made.

The song structure I've been studying is 8 bar intro -- percussion coming in on bar 5. Then straight into drop. Then 16 bars of verse, in which I incorporate little hints at the drop and may drop out percussion or some other elements, bringing them back half in. I may also have a 2 bar break between verse and drop. Really depends.

Then I repeat the drop twice, changing bar 8 of the drop on the first or 2nd repetition. Again depends on the drop and the flow.

Then I have another verse for 16 bars. May include another 2 bar drop out rest and pickup. Then the final chorus.

The main thing with transitions is trying to take away 2 elements, then add or change two others, so that it doesn't sound like you're just having to pile the same thing on over and over again.

All that said though, this is a great start. With just a little bit of study, I think you have the makings to put out some really compelling music, especially with the tools you have.

Also, be sure to follow bedroom producer's blog for some great free VSTs and discounts. You can currently get KSHMR Essentials Kick, which is a great PRO grade percussion all in one processor. Highly recommend it.

Thanks for the PM!

1gryone responds:

Thanks for your advice bro. I am working to become better, better and better. Thanks for you feedback

This feels like a mix of Japanese, Chinese, and near east... or... middle east. With some Greek when you hit that vocal solo.

Great film score type stuff.

Any critique I would have -- our section at 3:00 or so, I'm hearing a lot of reverb on our cinematic low percussion, and it isn't sticking out above or sitting alongside the melodic and rhythmic elements. It's behind it. The track as a whole sounds quite tinny here.

The sub hit before 4:20 could probably sound better if tuned to the tonic.

5:01 very much reminds of Indiana Jones Egypt. I like your percussion here. I want more of that tambourine, or less of the hand drums which come in there. Now that said, you've done an absolutely FANTASTIC arrangement here, wonderfully authentic. Wanting just a tad more of those chants and about 0.2 dB more strings, with a more pronounced stacatto and cleanliness between notes. That's hard to manage with synths, of course. I'm very impressed you've made such a journey in so little time!

7:15 we have come through great pain and confusion. I want just a bit more of that odd moaning in the right channel. Now it sounds like we've gone somewhere like Petra. At 8:06 I want a bit more of the lead you have in the right channel. I continue wanting more of it at least up to 8:33, 0.5 dB perhaps, even. Or bring the accompaniment down, if desired. 9:01, I feel it would sound much better if soaring over.

All this said, gorgeous piece. I've thoroughly enjoyed it all the way through despite long length. I have a short attention span. That's a very high compliment. Fantastic work.

Thanks for coming out to NGUAC!

VociferousMusic responds:

Thank you very much for the critism and the minor things you suggested for improvement!

I'm very surprised you actually related my soundtrack to the far east (Chinese, Japanese), since I have not any instruments used being typical for these cultures, and at the end, I did not intent to have it sound like that, haha. :P

The vocal solo is meant to be indian and not greek, but you were close about guessing. :)

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