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Bell synths sounding good. Mix could use improvement though. It sounds like it was just mixed wayyy too loud before hitting the master -- if there's anything on the master.

The writing itself is great, standard.

I'd like a lot less beat tags throughout.

Your 808 has a good tone to it. The kick is just coming in and distorting with every beat. Try a sidechain and see if that will get it to stop.

Now the piece itself stays the same throughout, as to be expected with a trap beat. I would recommend maybe trying out different structures for future pieces. Writing your first four bars will get you your hook if you just take it two times and write a good changeup on the 7th and 8th bar, or 15th and 16th depending how you structure. Learning about transitioning will help you use the same elements without sounding like you're doing the same thing over and over. It's important to remember, your listeners' ears will get fatigued, after all. I ran into the same problem writing Listerine, if you wanna check out a comparison. The solution was just trying a different structure out and moving some things around on it, then writing in changeups.

Nice fresh piece though. Enjoyed the listen despite the kick issue.

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I really like the overall idea of this piece, but at points it's hard to hear what you're trying to do. It feels like you put in a lot of effort into making this piece sound special, but not really knowing how to accomplish that made the bigger chorus sections stack on top of one another until the melodic elements crumpled in on themselves -- and I say this with absolutely no offense. Listen to some of my older pieces and you'll see I had the same problem. Sometimes still do when I write tbh. It's so tempting to keep adding spice. But soon the dish is nothing but peppers, if that makes sense, and you can't taste the meat.

Mix wise, the glaring problem is reverb. On solo instruments and small sections, it's not super out there, but on your choruses, I would drop the wet signals down by maybe even half, shorten the tails, and EQ or multiband compress from 0 hz to 250 hz down several dB.

Transition at 1:42 is a little messy, busy sounding note wise. Same with 2:07 on that bass. The transition there is cleaner.

2:29 I would actually say your percussion is a little too loud in relation to the bass. It becomes clear why later -- the other synths that come in are too loud. Really I feel everything except the percussion throughout should be turned down so that the bass can be clearly heard.

By 3:35 I thought the song was ready to wind up. I'm aware house tracks can go on for ages though. I'd really prefer something other than that really basic piano synths. Even a triangle wave would sound better to my ears I think.

A lot of things going on here at 4:52. I'm not really able to clearly hear anything going on because of too many moving parts. Open this project back up, and start muting busy saw instruments and see how much more intelligible your idea becomes. That difference is what I'm hearing on your drops.

So I can hear very much you're ambitious and have the drive to go the extra mile. I think maybe studying the principles of structure and transitions would help you most -- then lead writing, in that order. The main problem here seems to be, "I sense I need to bring out something different here, but I don't know really what to do -- I've already made X part really cool. I think I'll just add Y and Z." But we do that without taking anything out of the equation for each new drop. so by the end we have confusing layers of sound that are hard to interpret for someone who hasn't heard the song 200 times like you have while writing it, you know?

I've been recommending this video a lot lately, but search up Kush After Hours, rule of pairs. It's a short video on how to write great transitions, and I think it'll help you a lot toward achieving your vision in future songs.

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Nice intro here. I'm not sure what SFX we have going on at 0:08 -- can't tell if it's pigeon cooing, horse hooves, just some crumpled paper sounds or w/e. If you want that heard, I would bring it up in the mix, or bring everything else down somewhat, like you've done with your cinematic percussion. Otherwise I would just not have it there. My band director always said, even if you make a mistake, make it loudly, and no one will assume you're ashamed of it. The brain will interpret quiet as somehow worse.

Writing wise, I like this.

By 1:20 we're getting distortion from pure loudness, which continues with every transition. The track sounds overly compressed and mixed at absolute red lining headroom levels. I'm also not a fan of such a deep and long sidechain, especially the double drop-outs.

Writing wise, no complaints. Structure is good, works well. You could probably take those stick click cinematic percussions and drop them by .5 dB

I'm amazed on quieter sections such as before 3:45 we're already getting distortion again. Take time when you get the chance and see what is going on here in all your transitions. It sounds like the track itself should come down about 6 dB before it hits the master channel. Without the distortion I'd give a full star higher tbh.

Anyway, despite some shortcomings, I enjoyed the piece. With more practice and keeping in this style, you show a LOT of potential, so don't get yourself down. Once this part of the competition is over, it's as simple as go back, reopen your project, and take the levels down. Then re-render and run your track through mastering (leave -6 dB of headroom is a pretty good rule of thumb) and this track is playlist ready. Great work on the composition itself.

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Chord progression is nice and smooth. Transition noise is just a little loud.

Nice work with portamento here. I would take down your saws by about 1 to 2 dB, cut off an sidechain the sibilant frequencies more, and take down the reverb sends on everything by a lot. Low cutting them to 250 hz also helps a lot in making room for everything to lay in with the bass. As is, it's really hard to hear the bass and percussion.

Hi-hats and or shakers, I can't tell, are very sibilant and could use much less reverb. They create a high wash that makes the track a bit hard to listen to. Harsh sounding. If you want to keep the same reverb, I'd gate it pretty hard. There's just so much sibilance in this track, it's hard to listen to your drops.

I may have mentioned already, but the accompaniment -- non-melody -- synths are covering up your other elements, especially the bass. It's a tendency I suffer from a lot too in trying to make massive sounds. Try just spacing them out more. It'll help. Your percussion should be the loudest part of your mix -- kick and snare. Those carry you through. Those massive sides, they can be up there, but here they're probably 1 to 2, maybe even 3 dB too loud.

Writing wise, this piece was pretty repetitive, but nothing offensive. I would recommend taking a minute to study transitions -- there's a great video, the rule of pairs, by Kush After Hours, that I think you should watch, and I say this because nothing was inherently wrong with anything you wrote, or boring, but it felt like a lot of the same. I think you may benefit from less is more -- rule of pairs, take away two elements, add or change two elements transitions. Because by the end, even though we had a big wall of sound, I felt like we had been sitting at the height of your piece for basically the whole track after the intro. There were no real peaks and valleys, not a lot of tension. Feel me?

Still good work pulling through to this stage of the competition, and thanks for coming out to NGUAC!

Drak02 responds:

Thanks for the feedback. I'm not surprised by a lot of your comments, especially about mixing, as thats something i'm still very, very much learning. I had a lot of fun participating in the NGUAC, and I'm glad I joined.

Nice atmospheric touch in the beginning. For a second I thought I had muted the track by accident until I heard some more crackles.

Now, I would recommend turning your reverbs down by a lot and doing a low cut to 250 hz on each wet send. Throughout, it's pretty muddy in that range, especially on your pianos, where I hear more reverb sound than the actual piano itself. I would even recommend a different instrument choice speaking of, honestly.

Now for your intro sections, I think the bass should be on different notes of the chord. It comes off sounding a little congested. The bassline you have at 2:21 sounds not so bad in comparison. Perhaps the first iteration could be used as a changeup or something but having it repeated doesn't sound great to me.

It sounds like you're doubling low thirds and fifths rather than root notes of chords -- so chunky chord writing. You may want to look up some music arrangement tutorials on YouTube to combat that. There are plenty of great free ones out there.

Otherwise, the mixing is pretty clean. Your leads are a bit buried under the accompanying synths you've written, but I can pretty clearly hear percussion. I don't have a lot of complaints.

Good job coming up with this track in the time limit, and thanks for coming out to NGUAC!

There seems to be some kind of clipping on your kick in the intro.

Overall, nice, quirky sound going on here, very interesting, sometimes cheesy lead synth choices. I like your hook throughout.

You could do with a lot less reverb on your synths. I'd take it down half again. Or at least modulate it.

Percussion elements on bigger sections are pretty buried in the mix. I would turn everything else down and compress the individual instruments harder. At 3:01 they're almost totally buried until those chorus synths fall off the top.

Transitioning here is a lot cleaner than last time around, and you bring an interesting presentation all around, with lots of little sparkling touches. I would probably recommend staying away from some of the more preset-y sounding synths and taking more time to design your own sounds, or modulate or apply FX to taste. That's really my biggest gripe. Some transitions with FX felt a little clumsy, but you're getting the hang of things, and this is great for only having two weeks to work on a piece. Starting out, I know I'd take forever.

I don't have any critique for writing as per the notes themselves. You handled that very well, and I really enjoyed your presentation throughout. The instruments, modulation, etc, are really my only gripes.

Thanks for coming out to NGUAC!

I would firstly modulate or apply some kind of fx to that intro piano dirge.

Spicy chords in the intro. You could also probably apply some kind of filtering, chorus to make those stand out. I find myself wanting more of them when our drop comes in.

Percussion could use to come out a lot more in the mix. Mostly the kick. The snare seems to do fine. It seems like there's some kind of rubbery flange effect going on with it.

Overall this piece has good elements, some strange instrumentation, and a polka feel I think could probably use more switchups. It ends up feeling like a slapstick horror chase through a Scooby Doo episode or something, with not a lot of overarching melody. What it does have is hidden down low. Those hoovery leads through 1:29, I'd like those split into two lines and panned something like 40 percent right and left

But overall, good use of piano without making it too cheesy, piece holds cohesively together, and for being forced to create this on a time crunch, I'm impressed. Good work :)

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Nice intro going on here.

Some comments, I really like your chords, but the bass is too high up. The chords end up sounding very chunky and congested in the low mid range, which hurts your very pretty writing.

Percussion is also hiding in the mix on your big sections. I would rather than turn it up, turn everything else down until it is clearly heard, strongly -- apply compression to the percussion itself, possibly space out your hihats more.

2:20, I'm not sure if it sounds better, or if I'm getting used to the congested writing.

I'm just not liking bar 7 and 8 of that progression where the bass note is so close to the chord itself. It also sounds like going up and down in a perfect fifth or perfect fourth or just going back up to a note we've heard before. Either change the chord inversion maybe.... change the chord... Something's going on there. It's hard to hear what because it's so tightly wound and muddy. It may even be that the bassline is too busy.

I would also suggest checking out the rule of pairs -- it's a video by Kush After Hours explaining best practices for transitioning. Basically, for every transition, you take away two elements and then add or change two new ones. A lot of problems I have with this track are simple add one element transitions, and that can lead us to cluttering, which happens here.

Mixing wise the piece sounds like it has almost no highs. That could be because the hihats are so far down in the mix, transition sweeps aren't really used, the snare doesn't have any high or white noise frequencies. I will say good job not overcompensating for space by getting that effect with high end reverb.

On your sustained instruments you may try a sidechain to the kick and snare to get more movement out of them.

Thanks for coming out to NGUAC!

Right off the bat, liking your chord here. It's unusual. I'd like maybe some filter on that bit crushed whole note synth.

Interesting, spacy vibes going on. I would take that bassline you have and take it down about half a dB or more, and bring the drums out. They're bit crushed so they're going to have a harder time cutting through the mix.

Overall, I'm not really sure what's going on, if we're ever coming to a chorus. Saying this as we've gone about halfway through without moving away from the tonic note of A and the run of A, G, C, to say, F, E, G and back to A. There just seems to be no B section to your A section, figuratively speaking... and literally speaking. That's really the only thing keeping me from jiving to this piece. Otherwise it's not offensively mixed, and the instrumentation isn't bad at all. Just lays there is my thing.

I'd love to hear you experiment outside the box with some chord progressions.

Thanks for coming out to NGUAC!

BrandonTurner responds:

I definitely agree with you, I should've had more of a chord progression to make it more interesting. You're right about it needing a B section as well, a more unique verse in the middle to cut down on the repetition would have been a good idea.

Thanks so much for the critique! I appreciate it!

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