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I make beats, metal, samples, patches, dnb, original game soundtracks, RVC voice models, and Russian/ English translation covers. Follow for monthly music producer freebies! Рада помочь русскоговорящим. Семплы вложены в ссылках вниз)))

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Ass-kickin' guide !

Thanks! Hope it helps. If you need a hand, btw, don't hesitate to ask!

There's a bright decorative sign when you go to submit audio, it's practically slathered all over the guidelines, yet there is still audio theft day after day. No wonder people are turned off by any music from Newgrounds.

I'm not sure if you have this in your guide, but the way I look for stolen audio is I search up an artist's name. I know of a lot of dubstep artists and just about every GD player uses a dubstep song for an overused trend called "circles levels". I know artists like Skrillex, KDrew, etc. don't have a Newgrounds account so I'll type in Skrillex or Datsik and find about 100 audio submissions under that name.

Thing is, we're the only community having to deal with GD theft specifically, but people are acting like we're YouTube. We aren't.

I do, actually. Before I was modded, that was my prime method of finding stolen crap. One day I ran across 500+ songs. The next, I was a mod. It occurred to me that not everyone was doing this or aware of it, so I made this guide.

GD thieves just perturb me.

I intend to help when I can. I assume any covers any covers or remixes of all these dubstep songs should also be reported?

That depends. We're trying to move away from covers and remixes, yes, but some of these songs aren't copyrighted so there isn't a problem with covers and remixes. Others are, and there is a problem. I do hate to take down otherwise legitimate work on the account of it being a cover, though, especially if there are no samples from the artist they're covering or stems from them used.

How long have you been a mod??? I just noticed this, haha.

Happened while I was in Arkansas. I don't remember which day. Probably about 4-5 days? I literally didn't keep track hahah.

Well done on compiling this guide -- I hope it'll make things seifter and easier for us lot to handle.

Now, I wonder if there is gonna be a Readme or permanent FP associated with this...

Thanks. I never really have been one for publicity, but if it would help, by all means, put it in your sig, w/e. I see a whole lot more backlog in AP cleanup than I ever do flags all day long, and the cleanup thread started because flags/whistles at one point were broken. As a result, many users, myself included at one point, forgot how to flag. Who knows, maybe even a wiki link would do.

@NekoMika, what do you think?

I knew you haven't been one for very long, haha. My guess was right.

Anyways, congrats! :)

Thanks. It almost feels strange. A while back, @Asandir interviewed me and asked if I'd be interested in modding if it was offered. I said yes, if it would help out. Never actually thought I'd get the honor.

Congratulations on becoming a mod! Seems like a foregone conclusion to me. Fantastically informative post, and one that I shall certainly be linking others to. It's a filthy landslide of disallowed content each and every day, but with enough legit Newgrounders probing the Audio depths, it can be cleaned up in short order.

And, in the long term, let's all hope that the illegal upload fad tapers off. Perhaps one day all who post content on Newgrounds will learn to read, comprehend the site's text-based rules, and wisely decide not to upload stolen material.

...And maybe I should wish for a million dollars to fall out of the sky and fall right into my lap. Oh well, one can always dream.

Yes, and yes. Well, if I wish for anything, it's certainly more users to help find all this stolen crap and get it off the site. I've spent over a decade on NG, and I'll be damned if I see it go to ruin because of some ignorant fools pirating music. We're a user-created content site, not a PTP filesharing ring.

... Uh, what I meant to say was, thank you. :P

It's been exactly a year since I interviewed you and now you actually are an audio moderator, congrats ^^

Wow, I didn't even think of that! No small thanks to sterling examples such as yourself. Thanks Asandir!

@NekoMika I wouldn't expect GD to remove the custom music option - and despite the problems, it has brought lots of positive attention to the NG Audio Portal as well, in addition to GD fans encouraging other artists to upload their work on NG. The big question is whether there is any sort of communication that can dramatically reduce the abuse. For example we added that big graphic bumper before users upload music - which may be helping some but we need to generate some moderator data to see what the daily abuse has been like before / after.

In GD itself it has a link to NG's terms but probably needs a better notice to not abuse the NG upload system. I'm gonna email Rob about that.

I hope it helps.

Would you like me to start keeping my daily statistics of GD theft and songs relating to it? That's 99% of what I deal with daily. Sometimes AP cleanup interferes with watching the unscouted section, so much backlog.

We're able to recognize when someone uploads the same art or SWF, have to see if we do that for music - I imagine people come at it with the same song but their MP3 files aren't identical.

I talked to Rob yesterday and he's gonna try some changes to the messaging. Right now if you search a song ID to add it to a custom level, a box pops up telling you not to upload music you didn't make - the update should make that box appear as soon as you hit the custom music screen, and force you to wait a moment to read it, with some different wording / font coloring to try and emphasize the main points. We'll see if that helps. I think the main problem is they think they can upload and get scouted, when they need to know it just isn't gonna happen for them.

I find that a lot are ripping from YouTube videos or pirating from approximately the same place. If you could rig it so that any mp3s already in the system would flag a new submission that matched one of them, it'd keep someone else from stealing the same mp3, at least. I've heard the same 320 kbps or w/e F-777 - "Seven Seas" at least 300 times in one week, enough to make anyone sick, haha. I would be worried about the server load that would bring on, though. Perhaps less than the actual thefts themselves, but I already get some occasional errors while banning and unpublishing. I do think something like this would be 100% worth it, however. Some thieves double and triple upload the same song trying to get it onto GD, which is a lot of workload over time.

Maybe update our upload banner here as well. I feel it doesn't quite illustrate the point -- that permission from someone off NG doesn't give you permission from us to post content you didn't make on NG, that fair use doesn't exist, no copyright doesn't matter: theft still sticks out like a sore thumb in user-generated content community like NG, you won't get to use the song, whether or not you get scouted, we'll remove the content, you will get banned permanently, and we might even delete your account.

I don't think these kids even read, honestly.

congrats for being the new mod. NG need you and Lexy. :)

Thanks! Glad to help out where I can :)

Sniffle sniffle pretty good guide in here because one of my songs got taken down

Did it break the rules? Completely made up of loops, etc?

Thanks so much for writing this up, man! We definitely need to pay closer attention to piracy issues among GD users and the community at large.

No problem. Glad I could help!

I stole a song that's why in banned

Yeah, we do sorta ban people for that, a lot. Stealing music hurts us, legally and in terms of good name. We're not a file dump for GD either.